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The Catholic Conversation

Steve and Becky Greene, the Cradle and the Convert, help Catholics faithfully live their vocation by providing Church teaching, navigating moral challenges and exploring current issues facing the faith in our culture.

Saturdays at 10 a.m. on 1310 AM Relevant Radio in the Phoenix area.

Sep 15, 2023

St. Francis de Sales wrote for average laypeople to help them grow in holiness while living in the world. Dcn. Matthew Newsome joins Steve and Becky to break open his writings and discuss how we can live a more holy life. His book is The Devout Life: A Modern Guide to Practical Holiness with St. Francis de Sales.